City of McIntyre
March 5, 2012
Mayor Horne called meeting to order, led in prayer by Council member John Carswell.
Present were: Mayor Vicki Horne, Council members, Vickie Mixon, Rico Myrick, John Carswell, Katherine Scott, and Eugene Moore.
Motion to approve minutes from the February 20th, 2012 meeting was made by Mixon, seconded by Carswell, no opposition, motion carried.
Mayor Horne addressed old business from the agenda and asked Chief Amerson for his recommendation for Municipal Judge.
Amerson said that he had received three Lawyers who expressed interest in it. Amerson said that he had Ralph Jackson from Dublin, Blanton Lingold from Milledgeville, and Steven Harrell from Perry. Amerson said that Harrell had no experience and that Lingold had two courts that he was doing now and Mr. Jackson has been a judge in the past and that he had also been interim Probate Judge over in Twiggs County, and that he was Municipal Court Judge to several courts in the past. Amerson said that Mr. Jackson wanted $350.00 a month to be Judge and that Harrell wanted $300.00 and Lingold wanted $225.00. Amerson said that Lingold and Mr. Jackson was the two best for this court and they are the ones that he wanted Council to look at and decide to hire. Mixon asked how much did Jackson want. Amerson said $350.00, and that he would prefer someone with experience. Mixon asked Amerson which one would he recommend. Amerson said that he liked Jackson because of the experience but he was asking a higher price, and that he has worked with Lingold before and that Lingold had sat in for Judge here before. Mixon asked much Lingold wanted, Amerson said $225.00. Amerson said that Mr. Jackson was his first pick because he had a lot more experience, but that he had asked a higher price and has expressed that he may want to move court to 6:00pm, and that he didn’t really like that, that he would like to continue to have it at 5:00pm like we do now, but he would go with either one of them, and as far as court goes tomorrow, Lingold had Juvenile court tomorrow in Jones County, and said that he could possibly be here tomorrow at 5 but that he had spoken to all and anyone of them could be here tomorrow. Carswell asked Amerson that if he could personally hire one of them right now, which one would he hire. Amerson said that it wouldn’t matter to him either of the two. Mixon said but Amerson liked Jackson the best, Amerson said only because of the experience. Mixon said that that she was going to leave it up to Amerson. Scott asked if Jackson was the one that could make it at 5 or 6. Amerson said that he could be here tomorrow at 5. Motion to hire Ralph Jackson as Municipal Court Judge was made by Myrick, seconded by Mixon, no opposition, motion carried.
Mayor Horne asked Amerson about the new Police car. Amerson said that it had been ordered and was looking at April for delivery.
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Mayor Horne addressed the first issue under new business. Mayor Horne said that she had asked the clerk to look at the fees for copies and faxing, saying that we were charging cheap fees for these. Roberts said that she had contacted Ivey, Gordon, Irwinton and Toomsboro, saying that all charged .25 for copies and said that Gordon doesn’t do faxing for the public and Irwinton charges $2.00 for faxing and Ivey charges .75 for faxing and Toomsboros charges $1.00 per page. Roberts said that the City of McIntyre charges .10 per page for copies and .25 for faxing per page. Moore asked about what the courthouse charged, Clerk said that she did not call the courthouse, but McRee said that the courthouse charged .50 for copies, and that was a state wide charge, but didn’t know about faxing. Scott said that maybe we should look at .25 for copy and .50 for faxing; Mixon said that would not be enough to cover the cost of a long distance fax. Horne asked for them to consider it and she would ask again before the meeting was over.
Mayor Horne addressed Willie Hogan who was on the agenda to discuss the issue of dumping on Asbell. Hogan said that there had been a dump started on this side of the city limits and asked about getting it cleaned up and posted. Mayor Horne asked where the dump was. Hogan said across the road from Debra Snead. Horne said that Mr. Moore would get on that and get back with him. Moore said that he might get with him or get him to go with him to show him where it was. Mr. Hogan asked when, that he would meet him or come by and pick him up. Moore agreed to meet with Mr. Hogan on Wednesday morning at 11:00am at Hogan’s house.
Mayor Horne addressed the issuance of Beer and Wine license to Torrey Hill. Clerk said that she had received all of Hills paper work. Motion to approve license was made by Myrick, seconding the motion was Carswell, voting for the motion were, Myrick, Carswell and Scott, opposing the motion were Moore and Mixon, motion carried.
Horne asked about raises for the departments and said that she knew that they were in the budget, but had yet been voted on. Carswell asked what the percentage was, Mayor Horne said that it was 3%. Myrick asked if that included the new hires, Clerk stated that it did not, nor did it include Antion Todd. Motion to give raises retroactive to January 1st, 2012, was made by Mixon seconding the motion was Scott, no opposition, motion carried.
Mayor Horne asked about the information on the March 22nd Chamber of Commerce meeting, and asked Mixon to explain. Mixon said that she had been informed that no clerks nor police chiefs were allowed to attend the annual meeting this year, and that she knew that Ann Evans, Mayor for the city of Ivey had withdrawn from attending along with her council members and she wanted to know if McIntyre wanted to do the same.
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Horne said that there was a member of the chamber present and would he explain why the clerks and chiefs were not allowed to attend. Jonathan Snow said that it was due to
space, and that the place held about 170 people and as of now they had about 180 registered to attend and that the members of chamber were going to have to stand. He explained that they had new businesses attending and that they were limiting whom they could bring also. He said that they had plans to find another location that could accommodate a larger crowd.
Mayor Horne said that there would be a meeting held at the Senior Citizens Center at 12:00 on Thursday and that it would be a stakeholders meeting. It was planned in hopes that they could come up with some type of an agreement with the school on the wastewater treatment center. Mayor Horne said that they also hoped to get the money for the center from USDA soon.
Moore said that he had received a letter from Wade Council with Ga. Asphalt, who was the low bidder on Ga. DOT LARP program and would be paving Main Street from Julian Roberts to Railroad tracks.
Moore said that concerning the sway braces, that he had talked with Jonathan Snow about putting those sway braces in, and that he would be getting more information to know what they were doing. Moore said that he had talked with Jeff Smith with the county and had also talked with the inspector that inspected the bridge, and informed council that he would be continuing to work on it.
Moore said that concerning the Beer and Wine Ordinance, that he went back and read up on it and it states that the wholesale distributors pay the tax to the city, not from the local businesses. Moore asked if they could put a clause in the ordinance for Beer and Wine that they must buy it from a distributor. McRee said that he was not sure, that he thought you could but wasn’t sure, that he would check into it and bring it back to council next meeting.
Scott asked Mayor about the evaluation form that was given to her from the clerk. Mayor Horne said that she had not looked at it, but she would by next meeting and get with Scott.
Carswell stated that they were making some changes this year for May Day. Carswell asked about coordination fees and distribution fees. Carswell questioned the distribution fees, stating that a lot of the things that were copied were done so at City Hall. Carswell said that he check with the Clerk and was informed that there had never been any
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coordination fees paid to anyone with May Day, and stated that if we were going to be paying coordinating fees, then that should be bid. Carswell talked about using local
talents and church groups and choir groups who did not charge to perform along with a dance group, and said that he would be using these to fill out on May Day. Carswell said that there would be another meeting and he would notify everyone of the meeting and wanted everyone’s input. Mixon asked about the advertising, and thought that the city was already paying for advertising. Mayor said that she thought Threat was talking about taking things throughout the county, to different locations. Carswell also informed council that they were planning a street party and asked Wayne about security for a certain section of the street and also for an after party. Amerson asked for him to get with him in a few days and they would discuss it. Myrick asked if we were going to pay Twanda, then what about the rest of them, are you going to split it with them. Carswell said that was her fee. Members of Council agreed that it was volunteers who did the May Day festivities and that no one should be paid. Myrick asked if Twanda was going to different places and purchasing things, Carswell said not that he knew of. Horne said that she had been coming down to city hall to make copies, that the only expense may be gas. Carswell asked if we paid her for mileage. Mixon said not if she volunteered to help. Mixon said that if you volunteer then you shouldn’t expect any pay back.
Myrick informed council that they had finished the project on Hwy 441, and that they had received a quote from Shockly Plumbing for the work on Railroad Street. Myrick stated that the quote was for labor only. Scott asked if it was going to be the same people who did the work on Dawn Street. Myrick said that our people had done that work. Myrick said that on Railroad Street was going to be more pipe and more work. Scott asked how many hydrants. Myrick said 14; Horne asked did we need that many hydrants. Snow said you had to put one every 500 feet. Myrick asked if he could go ahead and advertise. Mayor said we needed to get specs. Mayor asked from who, Myrick said that he would use Spence, since the city had hired him. Horne asked Myrick if he was going to live with that. Myrick asked if you knew of another engineer, Moore suggested Bill Carr.
Myrick said that he had gotten a quote from Brannen Motor Company for city trucks. They were 2012 Ford F150, XL extended cab, two wheel drive, vinyl seats, 5.0 engine 6 speed automatic, and other equipment, 2-wheel drive was 19,968, same truck in 4-wheel drive was 22,958 and that he thought we needed one to be 4-wheel drive. Scott asked what we needed trucks for, Myrick said one for the water department and one for the street department, that the ones we have are 1995. Mixon said that she didn’t understand 4-wheel drive. Myrick said that when it snowed they needed one, because he had one and had to pull them out. Mixon asked how often we had snow. Myrick said you never know, and that sometimes they get stuck, and could use it. Scott said that if it was going to be a utility truck then you would want one with 4 wheel drive. Moore suggested getting
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quotes from Childre, Mayor said that they had been there, before Moore came to council. Myrick said that he knew that Brannen had always been cheaper. Amerson said
that usually they were, but this year he got a better deal with Hardy Ford. Amerson said that he could call them in the morning. Moore said that we needed more prices. Myrick said we could table it and get two more quotes. Amerson said that he had two more contacts at the office and could get quotes.
Mayor asked if they could vote on the prices for faxing and copies. Moore asked what the average faxing was. Clerk said that she could not say, but that they did a lot of faxing for the citizens. Motion to set prices for faxing at .75 per sheet and copies at .25 per sheet, was made by Mixon, seconding the motion Carswell, no opposition, motion carried.
Terrance Shinholster addressed the council concerning his request for Beer and Wine license being denied. Shinholster said that he had talked with Chief Amerson prior to turning in any application and felt like he had met opposition. Shinhoslter said that the actual facts was that nothing ever happened on the inside of C&C lounge that it had all happened on the outside. He said that he could still do business in Gordon, but that he did not want to deal with the opposition of the citizens asking why he was doing business if he had been shut down, but that he wasn’t shut down, that he still had the business license, just his beer and wine license had been pulled. Shinholster asked council to be fair in the decisions they made about his license, because he had called Amerson before running the ad and applying for the license and the first thing he said was no he couldn’t do that. Shinholster asked Amerson if he recalled the conversation. Shinholster said that he told Amerson he was applying and running the ad for the VIP as far as opening it up, and told Amerson that he was looking for an officer at closing time, because he knew from experience that it wasn’t the issue’s that were on the inside, but on the outside, and Amerson said no he couldn’t do that. Shinholster said that he run his business like he was suppose to. Shinholster said that he had met opposition from the officers. Shinholster said as far as the guy getting killed, that it happened across the street, and that it was initiated in Macon. Shinholster said that he had to talk to the investigators. Shinholster asked for the opportunity to run his business. Shinholster said concerning the taxes that he never purchased beer out side of a distributor because you have to be licensed by the State, if you have a local beer and wine license. Shinholster said that all he could do is put measures in place. Mayor Horne said that she understood all that he was saying, but what Council has learned that in our ordinance if your license had been taken then we could not issue one. Shinholster said that his attorney said that it was at the discretion of the council. Mayor Horne said that she was not sure, because she didn’t know all the legal wording, and that’s why they pay David, and that she was going to let David explain. McRee explained to Shinholster that McIntyre’s ordinance did not specify where
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the barring took place, it just said that if you had a license taken away previously, that it doesn’t specify McIntyre, it just says if you have had one taken away previously. Now
where there discretion comes in is, as long as they operated under that ordinance that’s what that says, now if they wanted to do otherwise, they can vote to change the ordinance, then they would operate under a new set of rules, but the rule as it is doesn’t specify where previously, it just says if this happens, that as long as the ordinance reads like it is, then they don’t have any discretion, they would have to vote to change the ordinance. Shinholster said that he understood what he was saying, and knowing what his attorney said, and that he wasn’t going to come down until an actual decision was made, and said what he had told him, is that is why you have your local government, because it’s a difference as far as the ordinance, but you are saying that it’s not specified, and if that’s the case then it needs to be the same as it is in Macon, where there is a consolidation. Mixon explained that each city is different and each city can have its ordinance. Shinholster said that whatever decision was made he understood, and that he would put it in his attorney’s hand. Mayor said that she understood what David was saying that its at the discretion of the council to change the ordinance, and you did have people at this table that was willing to issue the license, but because our hands are tied because of the ordinance and the City has to follow the ordinance. Shinholster said that he only wanted to speak his part, and that he wanted to report his opposition, and said that the 18 months would be up soon and he could reapply. Amerson said that he did somewhat remember the conversation, and if what he remembered was right, that Shinholster asked if a police officer could work security down there, and I said no, and as far as having a guy down there, that he couldn’t have a man stationed down there, but that Amerson told him that they drove through there a lot on patrol when the place was opened and that you had to have security in place. Shinholster repeated comments stated earlier, Mayor advised him to have his attorney contact the city attorney.
Lamont Stribling asked if personnel got their CDL would they get an increase in salary. Horne advised him to talk with his supervisor. Moore said that they would talk about it.
Myrick asked about the liquor ordinance, McRee said that the had one or two more revisions.
Carswell asked about changing the ordinance in order to maybe giving Shinholster the license. Mayor advised Carswell to read over the ordinance and bring it back.
Carswell asked if he could order a program for the CDL and could he set aside some time to work with the guys, because he didn’t feel like the 6 months would be adequate enough time for them. Moore said that it was fine with him. Mayor advised that the public works had a computer. It was agreed that the program could be purchased.
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With no other business to discuss, motion for adjournment was made by Mixon, seconded by Carswell, no opposition, motion carried.